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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 27, 2009 6:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 08-27-1972 Best Show Ever?

Gonna have to go and disagree with you there on the drumming thang, re: '77.

Why not truck on over here

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

and give that SUGAR MAG a listen?

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Aug 27, 2009 6:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 08-27-1972 Best Show Ever?

Great song, but pedestrian version (drumming). You can almost imagine 2-3 boy scouts helping Billy & Mickey cross the road, holding up the traffic and carrying their Zimmer frames.

I preferred it when the Dead were young and full of vitality e.g. "Live/Dead" and my first (green vinyl TMQ label) bootleg:-

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-10-04.fm.glassberg_winters.28363.sbeok.shnf

Track 11 (as in 'The Eleven' on "Live/Dead" - there's some real drumming there!!!).

But, heh, let's not fall out - it's all personal subjective opinion NO-ONE can prove that one is better than the other and the more 70/71/72 for me, the more 77 is left for you.

One concession though - during a wasted moment or three (more like 2 weeks), I collected every "Friend of the Devil" from 1977 on the Archive - 12 in all if memory serves me right and put them on 2 CDs (had to drop one 'cos could only fit in 11) and listened to them again and again and again. Just love the insturmental breaks in the middle - tends to be Keith -> Bob -> Jerry with sometimes Jerry providing almost a fake ending before taking-off (soaring) once again before the dull, plodding chorus (you thought I was going to say "drumming" didn't you? - so you know what I mean?) comes in again. I just love those instrumental breaks - almost like mini 'Dark Stars'.

Keep on Truckin'

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 28, 2009 2:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 08-27-1972 Best Show Ever?

Yes! I used to really hate the transition from the original, almost bluegrass fast versions of FOTD to the ballad-like power chord versions, but the more I listened the more I came to like the really well-played slow versions (10/29/77 happens to have a superior FOTD!)

One concession I'll certainly make for the one-drummer (Billy) over the 2-man set up is in some of those great China>Riders from 1974 (i.e. my favorite ever 2/24/74) in which Billy just flows and does his best Buddy Rich/Gene Krupa-like fast-drumming to keep up and then eventually drive the whole band on the jams).

Ultimately, though, I like the 2-man set up b/c certain tunes are given that extra percussion push (Cassidy, LIG, Scarlet>Fire) that I think are missing in the just-Billy days.

As you say, all subjective...and always fun to discuss!

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